401k Mistake

Date August 26, 2007

When I joined my current company, I simply rolled over the funds from my previous company’s 401k into the new one’s.

Big mistake.

I did that before checking what investment choices were available in the plan. At the time I thought that all 401k plans were “good” plans.

After looking at my funds more carefully, I noticed one thing: they’re crap. They’re all class C funds, meaning that I’ll be paying a fee every year. In addition to that, all the funds are expensive (cheapest one is 1.4%) and several of the funds have a fairly new manager (less than 2 years managing the fund), which makes me not want to put my money in it.

I would’ve done a much better job if I had kept my previous 401k plan at the same place or simply rolled them into an IRA.

There are a few, but important, things that you must keep in mind when choosing a fund:

The class:

If all the funds have the same class, then it’s a moot point, but you should still be aware of the fees you’re paying.

Class A - you pay fees up front

Class B - you pay fees when you sell them

Class C - you pay fees forever !!!!!!

Fore more detail, you can check BankRate.

You generally want to look for NO LOAD funds, but if you can’t find them, I would then choose class A funds. As long as you keep the funds for a long time (5+ years), you’re get more money out of the fees you pay.

The manager:

The fund’s performance is directly correlated to the manager. Pick a good manager, and most likely you’ll have a good fund. But this requires a lot of research and knowledge of the investors. This is a difficult thing to do because you need to live and breath funds to know what the good managers are. One tip for the average investor like you and me is to use other services’s tips.

I pay for a newsletter to give me mutual fund tips. But you can find useful tips on the big PF sites, like Kiplinger and Money (at CNN). They all have a list of top funds.

The manager tenure:

When looking at the fund’s performance, you have to make sure you’re looking at the performance for the current manager’s tenure. If the fund have performed well for 10 years, but the manager have recently retired, it’s likely that the new manager will have a different investing strategy and thus, different returns.

The fund’s performance:

Past performance does not indicate future results. But it’s a good place to look at. A fund that has consistently beat the SP500 (with the same manager), has a good chance of keeping at it.

The fund’s fees:

Only 25% of the funds outperform the market, so why pay high fees for someone to under perform? There are several well managed funds with really low fees (like Vanguard), so keep a close eye on the fees.

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3 Responses to “401k Mistake”

  1. Mapgirl’s Fiscal Challenge / Not Every 401k Plan is Created Equal said:

    [...] Journey2Retirement has a very personal cautionary tale about rolling over a 401K plan into your new employer’s plan. I thought this was a very important article about doing your due diligence before going to a new company. My additional tip is that you usually have 90 days to take a rollover withdrawl from your old company’s 401k plan. Use the first 90 days at your new job to find out all you can because you may be better off staying in your old plan, or converting to a traditional IRA instead. (This assumes you aren’t anywhere near retirement age.) [...]

  2. B. Green said:

    Iys amazing how many people make mistakes when it comes to there 401k. I never really thought that rolling my money over from one 401k to another would cost me money. But you are right… it certainly matters.

    Thanks for the info.

  3. Abdul Sumar said:

    If you are leaving your existing job, that would be a great time to rollover your traditional 401k plan into an IRA. This option is even better than rolling over to your new employer’s 401k plan. Why? Because your investment options are unlimited.

    In a 401k plan, your investment is limited to the mutual funds & stocks that your employer invests in. However when you rollover into your own IRA, you can invest in stocks, bonds, commodities & other higher yielding assets.

    I like your tips on how to find a good mutual fund manager. But a mutual fund that has made consistent good returns could also fail because the manager has made himself a lot of money and slacks off, I saw this documentary on CNBC where some mutual fund managers bought themselves Ferraris, big mansions and their funds started to lose money because they slacked off. All in all, you are better off managing your own money than giving it to a Class C fund like you said.

    I would invest in commodities right now, gold, oil, soybean futures contracts, etc. You can read about my investment theories for retirement @ http://www.401klookup.com

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